Is this fascism?

In this episode of The London Review of Books podcast, Thomas Jones interviews Daniel Trilling, author and LRB contributor, about the global resurgence of right-wing nationalism and Richard Seymour's book, "Disaster Nationalism, the Downfall of Liberal Civilization." They discuss the complexities of defining fascism, distinguishing it from right-wing populism, and analyzing its historical and contemporary manifestations. Trilling and Jones explore the role of economic anxieties, resentment, and mass psychology in the rise of far-right movements, as well as the exploitation of fears related to climate change and national identity. They also touch upon the importance of addressing the underlying issues that fuel these movements and the need for a nuanced approach that combines political analysis with an understanding of people's emotional lives. The conversation concludes with reflections on potential strategies for countering the far right, emphasizing the need for a compelling counter-narrative and a broad-based movement that defends democratic values while addressing systemic inequalities.