The A.I. Jobpocalypse + Building at Anthropic with Mike Krieger + Hard Fork Crimes Division

In this episode of Hard Fork, Kevin Roose and Casey Newton delve into the potential impact of AI on entry-level white-collar jobs, discussing economic data, the rise of agentic AI systems, and anecdotes from various companies. They explore whether AI is already displacing jobs and consider the implications for young graduates entering the workforce. The hosts interview Mike Krieger, Chief Product Officer of Anthropic, about Claude 4's capabilities, safety testing, and the broader societal questions surrounding AI's role in job automation, as well as its potential impact on social interactions, especially among young people. Finally, they transition to the Hard Fork Crimes Division, discussing Meta's antitrust trial, crypto-related crimes, and a new blood diagnostics startup by Elizabeth Holmes' partner.