Demis Hassabis on the frontiers of AI

In this episode of Big Technology Podcast, Alex Kantrowitz interviews Demis Hassabis, CEO of DeepMind, and Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google, about the frontiers of AI. They discuss the potential for improvement in frontier models, the importance of both scale and algorithmic advances, and the necessity of more data centers for training and inference. They delve into the concept of "thinking" in AI systems, referencing DeepMind's work with AlphaGo and AlphaZero, and explore the potential of DeepThink. The conversation also covers the definition and future of AGI, the role of emotion in AI, and the possibility of self-improving systems like Alpha Evolve. Brin explains his return to Google due to the excitement surrounding AI, while Hassabis shares insights on agents, smart glasses, and the challenges of video generation with AI. The episode concludes with rapid-fire questions about the future of the web, the timeline for AGI, and the simulation hypothesis.