In this episode of the SANS Cyber Leaders podcast, hosts Ciaran Martin and James Lyon interview Lisa Forte of Red Goat, a cybersecurity expert with a background in maritime security, counterterrorism, and cybercrime policing. The discussion centers on insider threats, differentiating between unintentional and intentional insiders, and the types of attacks they perpetrate, such as fraud, sabotage, and theft. Lisa emphasizes the importance of employee assistance programs over draconian monitoring policies and shares insights on managing cyber crises, highlighting the critical roles of communication teams and the need for backup communication channels. She also touches upon the broader state of the cybersecurity industry, advocating for more data-driven discussions and less showcasing. The episode concludes with Lisa's advice to cybersecurity leaders: identify and prioritize the protection of important business services to ensure resilience.
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