In this post I lay out a concrete vision of how reward-seekers and schemers might function. I describe the relationship between higher level goals, explicit reasoning, and learned heuristics. I explain why I expect reward-seekers and schemers to dominate proxy-aligned models given sufficiently rich training environments (and sufficient reasoning ability).

A key point is that explicit reward seekers can still contain large quantities of learned heuristics (context-specific drives). By viewing these drives as instrumental and having good instincts for when to trust them, a reward seeker can capture the benefits of both instinctive adaptation and explicit reasoning without paying much of a speed penalty.

Core claims

To get high reward, models must learn context-specific heuristics which are not derivable by reasoning from the goal of reward maximization.[1]
It is also true that thinking explicitly about reward is sometimes a waste of time and punished by speed penalties.
It [...]

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Outline:

(00:52) Core claims

(01:52) Characterizing reward-seekers

(06:59) When will models think about reward?

(10:12) What I expect schemers to look like

(12:43) What will terminal reward seekers do off-distribution?

(13:24) What factors affect the likelihood of scheming and/or terminal reward seeking?

(14:09) What about CoT models?

(14:42) Relationship of subgoals to their superior goals

(16:19) A story about goal reflection

(18:54) Thoughts on compression

(21:30) Appendix: Distribution over worlds

(24:44) Canary string

(25:01) Acknowledgements

The original text contained 6 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.

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First published:
April 11th, 2025

Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ntDA4Q7BaYhWPgzuq/reward-seekers

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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

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