03 Feb 2025
1h 20m

#228 Co-Founder Alinea & Tock: Selling Experience

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This interview podcast features Joubin Mirzadegan interviewing his second cousin, Nick Kokonas, a renowned restaurateur and entrepreneur. The conversation begins with a discussion of Kokonas's approach to risk-taking and his philosophy of diving into challenging projects despite initial skepticism. The bulk of the interview focuses on Kokonas's experiences building the Alinea restaurant group, creating the Tock reservation system (later sold for $430 million), and his current venture into vineyard ownership and a new, immersive theatrical dining experience. A specific example discussed is Kokonas's open-source approach to Alinea's business plan, which generated significant pre-opening buzz and reservations. Listeners gain insights into Kokonas's problem-solving strategies, his perspective on risk and fear, and his unique approach to business and creativity.

Outlines

Part 1: Introduction and Background

Part 2: Entrepreneurial Process and New Ventures

Part 3: Tock and Alinea's Early Days

Part 4: Crisis, Experiences, and "Greatness"

Part 5: Tock's Evolution and Trading Reflections

Part 6: Magic, Psychology, and New Project

Part 7: Communication, Criticism, and Conclusion

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