Marty sits down with Tuur Demeester to discuss his visit to the South African city of Orania.

Tuur on Twitter: https://x.com/TuurDemeester

0:36 - Why Tuur went to Orania

8:02 - State-proof cities dealing with crime

14:29 - Orania's origins

19:24 - Fold & Bitkey

21:19 - Population growth and businesses

26:21 - South Africa is devolving

29:54 - Unchained

30:54 - Sentiment toward Orania

32:15 - Scaling Orania’s model

34:49 - Diversity and conflict

43:50 - Bitcoin fixes this, not MAGA

50:44 - Narrowing focus to weather the storm

1:00:54 - Cultural conflict makes family pairings difficult

1:05:45 - Meme coins

1:12:06 - Ethereum delenda est

1:17:28 - Bitcoin market and Bessent

1:23:10 - Tariffs and eliminating IRS

1:28:07 - Glass half full

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#574: Strong Cultures and State-Proof Cities with Tuur Demeester

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#574: Strong Cultures and State-Proof Cities with Tuur Demeester