（本期节目为全英文访谈）熟悉Agile开发的程序员或是产品人，都知道行业里有一个鼎鼎有名的项目管理软件Jira，由澳洲公司Altlassian开发。本期节目的嘉宾Michel Ferreira，就是这家全球知名IT软件公司的设计经理。 Michel来自巴西，母语是葡萄牙语，作为基本靠自学的设计师，他在工作多年后，离开巴西，在美国找到了工作。然后先后去了加拿大的Shopify，荷兰的Booking.com，最后来到了悉尼的Altlassian，并且还带着自己的妻子和两个孩子一起。当我听到他的故事时，我最大的一个问题是：他是怎么做到的？带着这个问题，随着这期节目的深入，我发现了他除了设计师之外，还有着四个身份：学习者、讲述者、简化者、老师。正是这几个身份，帮助他走到了今天的职业。听完这期节目，一定会对你的职业生涯有启发。 Shownote Visual shownote michel-sketchnote https://i.imgur.com/1gDOoNo.jpg About the guest Michel Ferreira is a Brazilian designer living in Sydney, Australia where he works full-time as a Design Manager at Atlassian, building the future of world-class Enterprise products like Jira. Previously worked at Shopify in Canada and Booking.com (http://booking.com/) in the Netherlands. Michel is also the host of LatinXs Who Design podcast. As a writer and public speaker, Michel has delivered numerous presentations to audiences around the world to introduce new design ideas and examine best practices in A/B testing. He's also written articles for Net Magazine and company blogs such as: Would you like fries with that? For Booking.com (http://booking.com/) and 11 Lessons from the NBA Bubble for your newly remote team for Atlassian. Michel Ferreira's podcast https://anchor.fm/latinxswhodesign (https://anchor.fm/latinxswhodesign) 关于：「狗熊有话说」播客是由大狗熊于 2012 年创办的独立中文知识型播客节目，以阅读、科技、旅行和个人成长为主要话题内容，是 iTunes 中国区长期推荐播客，被苹果 iTunes 评选为「2013 年度精选最佳社会与文化播客」。收听：在苹果 Podcasts、Spotify、新浪播客、网易云音乐、喜马拉雅FM 和荔枝FM 等音频播客平台中可以搜索"狗熊有话说"并关注收听；直接于【狗熊有话说】播客官网 voice.beartalking.com (http://voice.beartalking.com)在线收听；在微信公号文章中可以直接点击音频按钮收听；支持：如果你认可大狗熊的节目，请向朋友们推荐这档节目，邀请朋友们关注公众号“狗熊有话说”；大狗熊会在YouTube上更新更多关于设计、效率与学习类的内容，请在YouTube订阅频道 http://www.youtube.com/c/BearTalkVideo 如果喜欢英文内容，您也可以在这里订阅大狗熊的英文邮件email.beartalking.com/signup (https://email.beartalking.com/signup)，不定期收获学习经验分享。联系：微信：bearbigtalk（公众号）网站：beartalking.com (http://www.beartalking.com) 邮箱：bear@beartalking.com (mailto:bear@beartalking.com) 微博：@i大狗熊 (http://www.weibo.com/bearbig) If like this one, why don't you subscribe to Bear? Every post, to your inbox. 100% true, and always keep it real. And of course, no spam, ever. Go ahead, click email.beartalking.com/signup to subscribe. Special Guest: Michel Ferreira.

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