1048. Ellen Jovin set up a folding table on the street in all 50 U.S. states to talk with people about grammar, which led to the book "Rebel with a Clause." Now, her story, and the story of people who talked with her, is a movie by the same name. Mignon talked with Ellen and her documentarian husband, Brandt Johnson, about what they learned about both filmmaking and humanity.

Find them at RebelWithAClause.com.

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'Rebel with a Clause,' the movie, with Ellen Jovin and Brandt Johnson

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'Rebel with a Clause,' the movie, with Ellen Jovin and Brandt Johnson