In this episode, Nolan and Kelli host A.J. Thomas of X, the moonshot factory from Alphabet. A.J for a discussion about failure, innovation, and embracing adversity. They also discuss the importance of scenario planning and asking all the questions upfront as a baseline for business optimization.

While at X, A.J. embraces the notion that professional breakthrough requires personal breakthrough and her perspective on the relentless pursuit of truth, dispassionate assessment, and the power of curiosity provides invaluable insights into cultivating a mindset of innovation and resilience.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(02:07) Unique Approach to Onboarding

(10:09) Creative Hiring and Community Outreach

(13:07) Change and Clarity

(14:20) Sponsor: Attio

(15:52) Scenario Planning

(19:07) AJ's Journey to X, Google’s Moonshot Factory

(29:56) Embracing Failure

(33:00) The Unrecruiting Route - Why You Shouldn't Join

(42:23) Dispassionate Assessment

(44:46) The Relentless Pursuit of Truth

(47:58) Authenticity

(50:48) Being on the Front Line and the Quest for Learning

KEEP UP WITH A.J., NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDIN

A.J.: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelejeanthomas/

Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/

Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/

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