"There Won’t Be Many More COPs Where You Can Ignore Reality" Featuring Michelle Manook, FutureCoal

This podcast explores the often-ignored significance of coal in the global energy landscape, featuring insights from Michelle Manook, CEO of FutureCoal. The discussion delves into the current volatility in energy markets following the Trump election and challenges the prevailing belief that coal demand is on a steady decline. Manook highlights the technological advancements that have made coal plants much cleaner and more efficient. She calls for a more nuanced, fact-based conversation about coal's role in the energy transition, especially in developing countries like China and India, where energy security and economic growth are top priorities. The conversation also addresses the geopolitical aspects of coal supply and advocates for a broader understanding of emissions reduction that includes efficiency improvements beyond just carbon capture.