Talking points: masculinity, culture, mythopoetics, Robert Bly, Iron John

Maybe you've heard it said that there are lots of "olders", but barely any elders. John Lee is one of the latter, in my opinion. A critical player in men's movements of the 90s and close friends with Robert Bly, John is a wealth of knowledge, insight, and honest talk—and no stranger to deep work. Listen in, team.

(00:00:00) - Intro, and what brought John to where he is today

(00:06:23) - The impact Robert Bly had on the mythopoetic men’s movement, and what that was

(00:20:36) - Why Iron John is still relevant

(00:31:41) - Are men struggling with different things now compared to the start of the mythopoetic men’s movement?

(00:38:58) - The dark father archetype, and the difference between Robert Bly and Jordan Peterson

(00:43:20) - What can the study of myth do for the average man, and how the manosphere falls short

John Lee is a pioneer in the fields of self-help, anger, codependency, creativity, recovery, relationships, and men’s issues. In the mental health field, he is considered the therapist’s therapist and regularly trains and mentors therapists on how to work with clients and how to work on themselves. He has taught his techniques and theories to thousands of individuals, couples, families, groups, corporations, and therapists all over the world. After 35 years of touring nationally and internationally, John Lee calls Austin, Texas his home.

Connect with John

-Website: https://johnleebooks.com/

-Seminar; From Hero To Elder: https://wakingheartschoolofwisdom.com/events/from_hero_to_elder/

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John Lee - Iron John's Legacy, Robert Bly, And Early Men's Work

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John Lee - Iron John's Legacy, Robert Bly, And Early Men's Work