Over the last few months, design engineering has by far been the #1 most requested topic. So I wanted to get the inside scoop from the team at Vercel to learn more. In this episode we get to hear from:

1. Glenn Hitchcock - https://twitter.com/glennui (Director of design engineering)

2. John Pham - https://twitter.com/JohnPhamous (Lead design engineer)

The goal of this conversation is to help people understand the role that design engineers play and to outline a path you can take to develop some of these skills. We talk about:

- The strategy behind Vercel’s new website

- Why Vercel built a design engineering team

- How designers collaborate with design engineers

- What Vercel looks for when hiring design engineers

- How Vercel is always building with re-usability in mind

- + a lot more - Maggie Appleton’s quote on software creation from our group interview

- https://anthonyhobday.com/blog/20240122.html

- vercel.com/ship

- Framer components - https://drams.framer.website/ (inspired by Dieter Rams’ design principles)

- Screwball scramble - https://us.tomy.com/screwball-scramble/

- Dead Simple Sites - https://deadsimplesites.com/

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S5 | E8: Vercel’s Glenn Hitchcock & John Pham - Design engineering deep dive

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S5 | E8: Vercel’s Glenn Hitchcock & John Pham - Design engineering deep dive