19:I[66739,["/_next/static/chunks/0.3dg.jzl0xwf.js?dpl=dpl_BhmHa8NmNRnoMAUm8Lqp3TPz2qZA","/_next/static/chunks/0qxr~fpya2kw0.js?dpl=dpl_BhmHa8NmNRnoMAUm8Lqp3TPz2qZA","/_next/static/chunks/12wfgjmhh21qu.js?dpl=dpl_BhmHa8NmNRnoMAUm8Lqp3TPz2qZA","/_next/static/chunks/028~snn2srcd-.js?dpl=dpl_BhmHa8NmNRnoMAUm8Lqp3TPz2qZA","/_next/static/chunks/079qbl7l5rd72.js?dpl=dpl_BhmHa8NmNRnoMAUm8Lqp3TPz2qZA","/_next/static/chunks/0hi8o2xq05aig.js?dpl=dpl_BhmHa8NmNRnoMAUm8Lqp3TPz2qZA"],"default"] 1b:I[38632,["/_next/static/chunks/0qqtp3r0h7kah.js?dpl=dpl_BhmHa8NmNRnoMAUm8Lqp3TPz2qZA","/_next/static/chunks/0iukvycbd42rl.js?dpl=dpl_BhmHa8NmNRnoMAUm8Lqp3TPz2qZA"],"IconMark"] 1a:T4d3,Today's episode is a little different. NPR's David Folkenflik sits down with two writers – Walter Isaacson and Michael Lewis – to ask about their experiences writing biographies of Elon Musk and Sam Bankman-Fried, respectively, and what it means to watch the person you're profiling become a villain in the public eye in real time. They discuss the process of getting close – or keeping their distance – from their sources for Elon Musk and Going Infinite, and confront the criticisms of how they do or don't address the wrongdoings of Musk and Bankman-Fried in their books.

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What it's like to write the biographies of Elon Musk and Sam Bankman-Fried

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What it's like to write the biographies of Elon Musk and Sam Bankman-Fried