Motherhood is a terrifying condition that changes a woman's life forever. Forget coping with it -- how do you even understand it? Priya Mathews and Gunjan Grover Gupta join Amit Varma in episode 354 of The Seen and the Unseen to discuss all they have learnt from being mothers, processing the experience, and their cult podcast, The Mommy Mix Tape.

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Also check out:
1. Priya Mathews and Gunjan Grover Gupta on Instagram..
2. The Mommy Mix Tape -- The most awesome parenting podcast ever by Priya Mathews, Bakul Dua and Gunjan Grover Gupta.
3. The Mommy Mix Tape on Instagram.
4. A Life's Work -- Rachel Cusk.
5. Of Woman Born -- Adrienne Rich.
6. The Child, the Family, and the Outside World -- Donald Winnicott.
7. Select episodes on The Seen and the Unseen that touched on feminism & gender with Paromita Vohra (1, 2), Kavita Krishnan, Mrinal Pande, Kavitha Rao, Namita Bhandare, Shrayana Bhattacharya, Mukulika Banerjee, Manjima Bhattacharjya, Nilanjana Roy, Urvashi Butalia, Mahima Vashisht, Alice Evans, Ashwini Deshpande, Natasha Badhwar, Shanta Gokhale, Arshia Sattar, Rohini Nilekani and Shaili Chopra.
8. In a Silent Way — Episode 316 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Gaurav Chintamani).
9. Gaurav Chintamani on Instagram.
10. What Is It Like to Be a Bat? — Thomas Nagel.
11. Wanting — Luke Burgis.
12. Luke Burgis Sees the Deer at His Window — Episode 337 of The Seen and the Unseen.
13. René Girard on Amazon and Wikipedia.
14. Womaning in India With Mahima Vashisht — Episode 293 of The Seen and the Unseen.
15. Womaning in India — Mahima Vashisht’s newsletter.
16. Pallavi Aiyar Has Seen the World -- Episode 351 of The Seen and the Unseen.
17. Babies and Bylines — Pallavi Aiyar.
18. India = Migration — Episode 128 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Chinmay Tumbe).
19. India Moving — Chinmay Tumbe.
20. The Loneliness of the Indian Woman — Episode 259 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Shrayana Bhattacharya).
21. The Loneliness of the Indian Man — Episode 303 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Nikhil Taneja).
22. Murali Neelakantan Looks at the World — Episode 329 of The Seen and the Unseen.
23. The Nurture Assumption -- Judith Rich Harris.
24. This Be The Verse — Philip Larkin.
25. The Importance of the 1991 Reforms — Episode 237 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Shruti Rajagopalan and Ajay Shah).
26. Happiness Class: A Film by Samina Mishra.
27. Natasha Badhwar Lives the Examined Life — Episode 301 of The Seen and the Unseen.
28. Our Unlucky Children (2008) — Amit Varma.
29. Hold on to Your Kids -- Gordon Neufeld and Gabor Maté.
30. The Breeders on Disney Hotstar.
31. My Daughter's Mum -- Natasha Badhwar.
32. I Will -- The Beatles.
33. All You Need is Love -- Shelja Sen.
34. The Whole-Brain Child -- Daniel J Siegel & Tina Payne Bryson.
32. Frances Ha -- Noah Baumbach.
33. The Lost Daughter -- Maggie Gyllenhaal.
34. How to Apologize -- David LaRochelle & Mike Wohnoutka.
35. I Talk Like a River -- Jordan Scott & Sydney Smith.
36. Cry, Heart, But Never Break -- Glenn Ringtved & Charlotte Pardi.
37. A Stone For Sascha -- Aaron Becker.
38. Journey -- Aaron Becker.
39. How War Changed Rondo -- Romana Romanyshyn & Andriy Lesiv.
40. The Wanderer -- Peter Van den Ende.
41. Cicada -- Shaun Tan.
42. The Arrival -- Shaun Tan.

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Episode art: ‘Mother Looking Out, Looking In’ by Simahina.

Ep 354: Figuring Out Motherhood

The Seen and the Unseen - hosted by Amit Varma