This podcast episode features a conversation between Luke Teumann and Timothy Snyder, two historians who discuss the rise of authoritarianism and the importance of art in resisting it. They highlight the role of art in breaking down big stories and revealing the truth. They also delve into topics such as the potential collapse of U.S. democracy, the avoidance of historical legacies in the European Union and the United States, the relationship between digital technology and freedom, the ambiguity of artwork, and the significance of concentration and painting in reframing history. The episode concludes with a discussion on the legacy of the Holocaust and the theme of polarization in Luke Willis Thompson's upcoming show.