This podcast episode explores the evolution of optical networking and fiber optics in data centers, the transformative power of cloud networking, the shift from manual to programmatic networking, the concern over the carbon footprint of cloud computing, the use of theatrical storytelling to raise awareness about the environmental impact of computing, the lack of understanding of computing among the general public, the challenges of managing cloud environments and workloads in academia, the challenges and opportunities of using cloud computing for academic research, and the increasing ease of deploying academic research into industry.