This podcast episode explores the concept of torture and grooming through the harrowing cases of Kelly Anne Bates and Suzanne Capper. It highlights the secretive and manipulative nature of grooming, as well as the challenges faced by parents in identifying and intervening in abusive relationships. The podcast also delves into the disturbing details of the torture inflicted upon Kelly and Suzanne, emphasizing the need to recognize the signs of abuse and take action to protect victims. It further discusses the history of torture throughout different civilizations, explores the CIA's Enhanced Interrogation Tactics, and delves into the psychological and physical trauma experienced by jurors in torture cases. The episode concludes by touching upon the concept of sensory deprivation, medical torture, and the shocking case of MKUltra. Overall, this podcast episode sheds light on the horrors of torture and the importance of raising awareness and preventing such atrocities.