This episode of the "Empire" podcast interviews Stacy Schiff, author of a biography of Cleopatra, focusing on Cleopatra's relationship with Julius Caesar and later Mark Antony. The discussion traces Cleopatra's journey from Egypt to Rome, her interactions with Roman society, and the political ramifications of her relationships. Schiff details Cleopatra's strategic use of her image and wealth to influence Roman politics, highlighting her visit to Mark Antony in Cilicia and the lavish gifts she bestowed. The podcast concludes with Cleopatra's death and the lasting impact of her life on both Egypt and Rome, emphasizing the complex interplay of love, power, and politics in her story. A key takeaway is the understanding of Cleopatra's agency and political acumen, challenging common misconceptions.