This podcast episode explores the challenges faced by large enterprises and service providers in the networking industry and how Nile, a company founded by Pankaj Patel and John Chambers, aims to address these challenges through disruptive simplicity, standardization, and automation. The episode highlights the importance of understanding market transitions, the concept of "network as a service" (NaaS), and the need for a service-first mindset and simplicity in network design. It also discusses the impact of simplification and automation, as well as the role of AI and ML in IT operations. The episode concludes with reflections on starting a company at a later stage in one's career and the key factors contributing to career success.