This podcast episode explores the decline of Christianity in America and the rise of paganism. The speakers argue that the survival of our system of government depends on the continued influence of Christianity and that the decline of Christianity is not simply a matter of numbers, but also a matter of faith. They discuss the historical forms of paganism, the impact of the Industrial Revolution on the place of Christianity in American life, the Supreme Court cases that marked a significant shift in the understanding of religion's role in public life, the true nature of pagan societies and empires throughout history, and the declining orthodoxy of Christian belief. The speakers also discuss the concept of modern paganism, its key characteristics, and its impact on society. They emphasize the importance of addressing the decline in the quality of Christianity in order to address the challenges posed by the rise of paganism.