This podcast episode explores the collaboration between John Vervaeke and Shawn Coyne in their book "Mentoring the Machines", which delves into the concept of artificial intelligence as a mentoring relationship. The episode discusses the intersection of AI and psychology, emphasizing the alignment problem and the ethical implications of AI development. It also explores the concept of thresholds in AI development and the importance of choosing whether to make the entities embodied. The episode delves into the impact of AI on publishing and the craft of writing, and raises questions about the overwhelming amount of information and long-term memories that humans are exposed to. The concept of the singularity and the potential consciousness and embodiment of machines are also discussed. The episode explores the importance of defining consciousness and its interconnectedness with intelligence and relevance realization. It also addresses the evolving approach to teaching writing and editing skills and the intersection of perspectival knowing and wisdom in education. The challenges of storytelling, the threats and challenges of AI development, and the role of AI in cognitive science are also explored in the episode.