This podcast episode features an interview with Rho Thomas, a lawyer turned financial coach, who shares her personal journey of realizing the need to manage her own finances more holistically. The conversation explores the daunting nature of financial planning, the misconceptions associated with budgeting, and the fear of deprivation. Rho's story highlights the transformative power of taking control of one's finances and finding joy and freedom in the process. The episode also discusses the negative stigma surrounding debt and emphasizes the importance of changing one's mindset about it. It emphasizes the connection between financial control and time management, as well as the importance of budgeting and being intentional with finances in law school and careers. Additionally, the episode provides tips to make budgeting less time-consuming, addresses the impact of COVID-19 on finances, and emphasizes the importance of separating self-worth from financial situation.