This podcast delves into the diverse perspectives on consciousness, spanning from physicalism and panpsychism to the hard problem of consciousness and the debate between panpsychism and the illusion of consciousness. It explores the challenges of incorporating consciousness into scientific models, the implications of panpsychism on our relationship with the environment, and the potential for a panpsychist science to emerge. The episode addresses issues related to AI and panpsychism, including the possibility of recreating consciousness artificially and the moral considerations surrounding AI in a panpsychist society.