This podcast episode delves into the intricate motivations behind white-collar crime, as articulated by Soltes through a compelling exploration of figures like Bernie Madoff and Michael Rand. By examining personal narratives and psychological insights, Soltes reveals that the prevalence of financial misconduct is not merely a product of flawed reasoning but rather a failure of intuition, where individuals become detached from the consequences of their actions, allowing them to justify harmful behaviors. The discussion challenges traditional perceptions of financial crime, emphasizing the need for a deeper understanding of the systemic issues at play and the complex human factors that drive executives to engage in unethical practices.