This podcast episode delves into the world of databases, focusing on the limitations and challenges of SQL as a query language. The guest, Viktor Leis, shares his academic and industry background in databases and discusses the history of SQL's dominance in the industry, highlighting its lack of proper standardization and compatibility issues. The episode introduces the concept of SaneQL, a new query language inspired by JavaScript and Java, which aims to address the limitations of SQL. The speakers also explore the potential benefits of pushing computation to the database and discuss the potential paths to success for SaneQL, including industry-wide adoption and the development of a new language standard. The episode concludes by discussing the evolving landscape of database systems and the need for clear separations of concerns in database design.