Kerry Brown: on What does the West Wants from China, and the Exercise of Chinese Power

This podcast episode explores the complexities of China's rise and its impact on the Western world. The speakers discuss the narratives and perceptions surrounding China, emphasizing the importance of understanding China's perspective through cognitive empathy. They delve into the reasons behind the unease and discomfort felt towards China, addressing cultural disdain, the clash between Western and Chinese worldviews, and the challenges to American exceptionalism. The effectiveness of engagement with China, the shift towards authoritarianism and capitalism, and the paradoxical relationship between the West and China are also discussed. The speakers highlight the complex issues of Xinjiang, the need for a different approach to discourse, China's identity and legitimacy, and the challenges faced by the academic community. They ultimately emphasize the importance of understanding China's ongoing development and the need for a pragmatic and collaborative mindset in addressing global issues.