This podcast episode explores the ethical implications of AI, emphasizing the need for containment and responsible governance. Mustafa Suleyman, a co-founder of DeepMind and Inflection AI, shares his insights on the challenges of managing powerful technologies and the importance of focusing on what we don't do rather than what we do. The episode also delves into the transformative potential of AI, the need for collective involvement in shaping its future, and the complexities of AI ethics and governance.