This podcast episode explores the journey of a woman who grew up in a bohemian and artistic household and later became a Carmelite nun. It discusses the contrast between her upbringing and her chosen path, as well as the daily life and significance of the Carmelite order. The episode also delves into the psychological aspects of abuse within the monastic community, the challenges of leaving the monastery and re-entering the world, and the impact of studying theology at Oxford. It concludes with reflections on finding spiritual fulfillment outside of the institutional church and the importance of following one's own path.