This podcast episode features a conversation with Alexandr Wang, the co-founder and CEO of Scale. They discuss the future of artificial intelligence, the importance of data as the main lever for economic power, and the role of data in the development of autonomous vehicles. The conversation also explores reinforcement learning, proprietary data, and the potential impact of AI on economic and hard power. The speakers emphasize the limitations and challenges in the field of AI, the democratization of AI models, and the need for global cooperation and dialogue. They also highlight the vision and founding of Scale, the value of reinvention in companies, and the importance of authenticity and identity. The section concludes by discussing the limitless potential of impact and success, the significance of being weird, and the exciting possibilities of AI in revolutionizing healthcare.