Elon Musk reporter Theo Wayt discusses the talent exodus at SpaceX AI and Elon Musk’s "DOGE-style" restructuring of the company. We also talk with Rocket Drew about closing statements in the Musk v. OpenAI trial as well as Co-Executive Editor Martin Peers & Jason Dean, SF Bureau Chief, about the brewing conflict between OpenAI and Apple. Lastly, we get into the future of Apple with iPhone engineer and Nest Co-founder Matt Rogers and the nuclear energy race with Jemima McEvoy.