This podcast episode challenges the traditional narrative surrounding the Cathar church by questioning its existence and the accuracy of historical narratives. It explores the origins and usage of the term "Cathar," highlighting its relatively recent invention and potential influence of conspiracy theories. The podcast also delves into the complex relationship between the Catholic Church and the Cathars, discussing the shifts in alliances and the persecution faced by the Cathars. It examines the reasons why the southwest of France became a hotbed of heresy and explores the beliefs and practices of the Cathars. The episode concludes with the events leading up to the Albigensian Crusade, the brutality of the crusade, and the misconceptions surrounding the Cathars as evil heretics. Overall, it challenges common assumptions and sheds light on the complexity of the Cathar phenomenon.