The Business of Staying Young and Living Forever (with Kara Swisher)

The pursuit of immortality and the business of longevity bridge ancient history and modern Silicon Valley, revealing a persistent human desire to "hack" life. Tech journalist Kara Swisher joins hosts Jacob Goldstein and Robert Smith to examine the spectrum between legitimate scientific breakthroughs, such as CRISPR and mRNA technology, and the "charlatanism" of the wellness industry. Historical parallels, including the first Chinese emperor’s mercury poisoning and John Harvey Kellogg’s eccentric health spas, provide context for modern figures like Brian Johnson, who experiments with blood swapping and extreme self-monitoring. While AI-driven drug discovery and "millibots" for stroke treatment offer genuine promise for extending "healthspan," much of the current market remains dominated by unregulated supplements and expensive "concierge medicine" for the wealthy. Ultimately, the most effective, scientifically proven paths to longevity remain accessible and low-tech: prioritizing sleep, maintaining physical fitness, and fostering deep social connections.