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What if the fastest route to your next client is already sitting in your podcast guest queue? In this episode, Jason Bradwell reveals why most B2B brands are leaving serious pipeline on the table by mishandling one of the most powerful relationship-building tactics in owned media.

In this solo episode of Pipe Dream, Jason breaks down the concept of "Trojan Horsing", the practice of inviting prospective customers onto your podcast as a means of building commercial relationships. With 95% of B2B brands considering this approach, Jason sets the record straight on where the strategy works, where it fails, and how to execute it with integrity.

The episode opens with a direct challenge to the ethics of bringing guests in under the pretence of content creation only to pivot into a sales pitch. Jason argues that this approach is not only ineffective, it actively destroys trust and sabotages any chance of a future commercial relationship.

Instead, he outlines a value-first framework that respects the guest's time and expertise, delivers on the promise of co-creating genuinely useful content, and builds a relationship roadmap that makes the eventual sales conversation feel natural rather than forced.

Jason also shares a series of practical follow-up touchpoints that B2B marketers can use to maintain momentum after an episode goes live, from sharing download metrics to extending invitations to exclusive events, all designed to nurture the relationship across a 3 to 12-month window before any sales message is introduced.

Key Takeaways

◼️ How to use your podcast as a legitimate relationship-building tool with prospective clients without compromising on ethics or content quality

◼️ Why pitch-slapping guests the moment they sit down will destroy any chance of a commercial outcome, and what to do instead

◼️ How to deliver on the promise of co-creating valuable content that genuinely benefits both your audience and your guest

◼️ Why the follow-up is where most B2B brands leave pipeline on the table and the simple changes that fix it

◼️ How to build a 3-to-12-month milestone roadmap that nurtures guest relationships towards a natural sales conversation

◼️ Why leading with value over time makes your eventual sales ask feel genuine rather than transactional

Chapter Markers

00:00 Intro

00:01 What Is Trojan Horsing and Why 95% of Brands Use It

00:02 The Ethics Question: Is It Okay to Pitch Your Podcast Guests?

00:03 The Value-First Framework for Interviewing Prospective Clients

00:04 How to Introduce Your Business Without Crossing Into Pitch Territory 00:05 Building Milestone Moments: Your Post-Episode Follow-Up Roadmap

00:06 When and How to Drop the Sales Message

00:07 Recap and Key Principles of Ethical Trojan Horsing

Relevant Links and Resources

Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbradwell/
Email Jason directly: jason@b2bbetter.com
B2B Better website: https://www.b2b-better.com

What's Next

If you are using your podcast to build relationships with prospective clients and want to make sure you are doing it in a way that actually drives pipeline, connect with Jason on LinkedIn or drop him a message at jason@b2bbetter.com -- he would love to hear from you.

Useful Links

The "Trojan Horse" Podcast Tactic: Genius Move or Ethical Fail?| Jason Bradwell, Founder of B2B Better and Host of Pipe Dream Podcast

Pipe Dream | A B2B Marketing Podcast