In this episode of Making Sense, Stephen Dulake, co-head of Global Fundamental Research, is joined by Jake Pollack, head of North American Credit Trading and Global Credit Financing, to take stock of where private credit stands today. They unpack the two forces shaping the narrative — investor liquidity in retail vehicles and underlying credit performance — alongside investor focus areas like PIK (payments in kind), software and services exposure, and early markers of AI-related disruption. The conversation closes with views on marking practices, the 2028–2029 maturity wall and ongoing price discovery, and what increased regulatory scrutiny could look like as the market continues to grow.

This episode was recorded on March 31, 2026.

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