The podcast explores the traits of narcissistic leadership and its impact on organizational culture. It questions why individuals are drawn to narcissistic leaders and examines the shame-based fear of being ordinary as a driver of narcissistic behavior. The discussion highlights how narcissistic leaders prioritize ego over mission, encourage cutthroat environments, and undermine collaboration, referencing NBA data showing stagnant team performance with narcissistic players. Brené shares an experience at St. Jude’s to exemplify the opposite of narcissistic leadership. The speakers also discuss the nuances between narcissistic traits, self-involvement, and anxiety, and the importance of voices of moral compass in rooms of power.
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