This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Sinead O’Sullivan, an economist and board member of the European Space Policy Institute. Sinead has had a unique career, from her early days in aerospace engineering in Northern Ireland to significant roles on Wall Street and at top academic institutions like Georgia Tech and Harvard. In her free time, she’s written about space, economics, wine, and even music for publications such as the Financial Times, Vogue, and The New Yorker—because who doesn't love a little light writing and high-profile journalism to unwind?

Our discussion explores the intricate dynamics of public vs. private funding in the space industry and the challenges posed by venture capital and institutional investments. In addition, we discuss:

Capital destruction in new technologies
The importance of institutional capital
…if the industry can maintain its growth
The future of space financing

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• Chapters •

00:00 Intro & Epsilon ad

01:16 Sinead's background

07:56 Engineer or Economist?

09:49 Sinead, the writer

12:14 Public vs private funding sources

20:00 The sustainability of current private-first funding mechanisms

28:14 Role of DoD in supporting startups

46:39 What will make institutional capital take the space industry seriously?

55:31 Space financing in 10 years

01:00 Irish modern art

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A Critical Lens, with Sinead O'Sullivan (European Space Policy Institute)

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