Eric Berger of Ars Technica joins me to talk about the budgetary threat facing Mars Sample Return, the latest issue with ULA’s Vulcan vehicle, and the ongoing tweaks to the National Security Space Launch Program’s Phase 3 architecture.

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T+254: Mars Sample Return, Vulcan, NSSL Phase 3 (with Eric Berger)

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