
The conversation explores Buddhism's perspective on victimhood, trauma, and the path to alleviating suffering. Gelong Thubten shares his transformative experience during a four-year retreat, where he learned to confront intense depression and anxiety by focusing on the physical sensations of pain rather than the stories behind them. He emphasizes the importance of self-compassion, describing it as holding one's pain with love, like tending to a frightened animal. This practice helped him navigate the grief following his teacher's murder, teaching him to send love into the "flames" of despair. Forgiveness, he argues, is less about absolving others and more about freeing oneself from the toxic burden of rage, achieved through meditation and understanding the suffering that drives others' actions.
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