The podcast explores the interconnectedness between private credit, traditional banks, and insurers, and the potential risks to systemic stability. Pete Troisi explains that private credit, now approaching $2 trillion, has grown due to tighter bank regulations, leading private lenders to partner with banks for funding via non-bank financial institution (NBFI) loans, exceeding $1 trillion. This exposes banks to risks in the private markets. Insurers, with over $4 trillion in policy liabilities, provide stable funding to private credit, but increased annuity sales correlated with interest rates and higher-risk private credit exposures raise concerns for regulators. The discussion also covers business development companies (BDCs), highlighting transparency issues and payment in kind (PIC) practices.
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