This podcast episode explores the complex relationship between AI and climate change. It discusses the concerns surrounding AI's energy consumption and the need to accurately assess its impact. The episode highlights the misleading nature of early studies on AI energy consumption and emphasizes the ongoing efforts to improve the energy efficiency of AI models. It also examines the potential environmental impact of AI technology, including its energy consumption in data centers and substitution effects. The episode acknowledges the positive role that AI can play in optimizing operations and reducing carbon emissions, but also recognizes the challenges and trade-offs involved. The speakers discuss the importance of considering where the power comes from when training and using AI models, as well as the need for transparency and voluntary agreements to encourage energy efficiency. They also emphasize the importance of educating the public about AI's energy consumption and the potential for AI to address climate change and energy sustainability. Overall, the episode calls for international cooperation and energy efficiency in AI development to mitigate climate change.