Awakening: Why We Waited 150 Episodes to Talk About It

The podcast explores the concept of awakening, particularly why it's not explicitly presented as a goal in their work. It distinguishes between head, heart, and gut awakenings, each dissolving the sense of self through different means: intellect, emotion, and nervous system, respectively. The discussion emphasizes non-duality, where the separation between subject and object dissolves, leading to a universal perspective. Joe shares personal experiences and explains how awakening isn't a finish line but a continuous evolution, comparing it to walking. The hosts caution against seeking awakening as a goal, as it can create attachment and hinder further growth, and highlight the importance of integrating emotional and interpersonal aspects alongside intellectual understanding. They also address the potential downsides and shocks that can occur during awakening.