The conversation centers on the Trump administration's climate policy reversals and their broader implications. David Gelles, a reporter from The New York Times, shares insights from the World Economic Forum at Davos, where global leaders expressed concerns about the erosion of U.S. social norms and the rule of law. Gelles notes the corporate sector's diminished willingness to speak out against the administration's policies due to fear of retaliation. The discussion highlights the dismantling of incentives for renewable energy, the EPA's shift away from environmental protection, and the withdrawal from international agreements like the Paris Climate Accord. Gelles also discusses his book on Yvon Chouinard, founder of Patagonia, and his commitment to environmental responsibility.
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