
The conversation centers on Mark Carney's speech at Davos, interpreting it as a sign of a global shift away from reliance on American hegemony and the liberal international order. Henry Farrell, an international relations professor, discusses the concept of "weaponized interdependence," where the U.S. uses its control over global financial and technological systems for political leverage. Examples include sanctions against North Korea and Iran, and the Trump administration's actions against the International Criminal Court. The discussion explores whether Trump's transactional approach is sustainable, or if it will push other countries to seek alternatives, such as closer ties with China. Ultimately, the speakers question whether the U.S. can continue to act as a global hegemon without undermining its own long-term interests and alliances.
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