
Joe Rogan interviews Benny "The Jet" Urquidez and Blinky Rodriguez, exploring the early days of martial arts and kickboxing in America. They discuss the evolution of fighting styles, from full-contact karate to the emergence of Muay Thai, and the impact of organizations like the PKA. Benny shares stories about fighting with no rules, inventing shin guards, and training with legends like Gene LeBell and even sparring with Bobby Chacon. Blinky recounts his efforts to help young gang members through martial arts and his journey to forgive his son's murderer. The conversation also covers the importance of discipline, respect, and the warrior code in martial arts, as well as the challenges of promoting kickboxing in a market dominated by MMA.
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