
The podcast explores the concept of a rules-based international order, its origins after World War II, and its current state in a changing global landscape. It examines whether the ambition to create this order was admirable or misguided, considering the self-interests of nations and the historical context of the Cold War. The discussion includes examples such as the first Gulf War, where the UN authorized intervention, contrasting it with the 2003 Iraq War, which lacked such authorization. BBC's international editor, Jeremy Bowen, offers insights into instances where the system worked and where it failed, highlighting the criticism that these rules are often Western-centric and selectively applied. The conversation also touches on the potential shift towards a new world order under leaders like Donald Trump, with spheres of influence, and the implications for global stability.
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