The interview explores Marco Rubio's transformation from a champion of democracy and human rights to an executor of Trump's foreign policy, particularly regarding Venezuela. Dexter Filkins, a staff writer at The New Yorker, discusses Rubio's need to abandon his principles to align with Trump's agenda, exemplified by Trump's dismissal of Venezuela's democratic opposition leader. The conversation highlights the parallels between the U.S.'s approach to Venezuela and Iraq, focusing on the pursuit of oil interests and the potential for chaos. Filkins also notes Rubio's limited influence within the administration, portraying him more as a "cheerleader" than a policy driver, while drawing historical parallels to the isolationist sentiment of the 1930s and its potential consequences.
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