
Josh Dubin returns to the Joe Rogan Experience to discuss his work on wrongful conviction cases, touching on themes of corruption, the inability to admit fault, and the complexities of forensic science. He details a defamation case involving Ike and Lori Perlmutter, whose DNA was stolen and used to falsely accuse them of sending hate mail, which led to a $50 million verdict and the establishment of the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice. Dubin also shares the story of Nelson Cruz, a man wrongly convicted of murder due to corrupt detectives and unreliable witnesses, highlighting the challenges of post-conviction work and the rarity of prosecuting the actual perpetrators. The conversation shifts to immigration policy, the ethics of drug criminalization, and the potential for psychedelics to facilitate healing, with both Rogan and Dubin sharing personal anecdotes and broader societal observations.
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