Part One: Earlier this year a Border Patrol officer was killed in a shoot-out with people who have been described as members of a trans vegan AI death cult. But who are the Zizians, really? Robert sits down with David Gborie to trace their development, from part of the Bay Area Rationalist subculture to killers.

Part Two: Robert tells David Gborie about the early life of Ziz LaSota, a bright young girl from Alaska who came to the Bay Area with dreams of saving the cosmos or destroying it, all based on her obsession with Rationalist blogs and fanfic.

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https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-community-warning-about-ziz-76c100180509
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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/infohazard
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Wayback Machine
The Zizians
Spectral Sight
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Schelling Orders – Sinceriously
Glossary – Sinceriously
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according to The Boston Globe
Inside the ‘Zizians’: How a cultish crew of radical vegans became linked to killings across the United States | The Independent
Silicon Valley ‘Rationalists’ Linked to 6 Deaths
The Delirious, Violent, Impossible True Story of the Zizians | WIRED
Good Group and Pasek’s Doom – Sinceriously
Glossary – Sinceriously
Mana – Sinceriously
Effective Altruism’s Problems Go Beyond Sam Bankman-Fried - Bloomberg
The Zizian Facts - Google Docs
Several free CFAR summer programs on rationality and AI safety - LessWrong 2.0 viewer
This guy thinks killing video game characters is immoral | Vox
Inadequate Equilibria: Where and How Civilizations Get Stuck
Eliezer Yudkowsky comments on On Terminal Goals and Virtue Ethics - LessWrong 2.0 viewer
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SquirrelInHell: Happiness Is a Chore
PLUM OF DISCORD — I Became a Full-time Internet Pest and May Not...
Roko Harassment of PlumOfDiscord Composited – Sinceriously
Intersex Brains And Conceptual Warfare – Sinceriously
Infohazardous Glossary – Sinceriously
SquirrelInHell-Decision-Theory-and-Suicide.pdf - Google Drive
The Matrix is a System – Sinceriously
A community alert about Ziz. Police investigations, violence, and… | by SefaShapiro | Medium
Intersex Brains And Conceptual Warfare – Sinceriously
A community alert about Ziz. Police investigations, violence, and… | by SefaShapiro | Medium
PLUM OF DISCORD (Posts tagged cw-abuse)
Timeline: Violence surrounding the Zizians leading to Border Patrol agent shooting

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