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This week’s guest is Tyler Shultz, the former employee turned whistleblower at Theranos founded by Elizabeth Holmes.

Throughout this gripping story, we chat about:

1. Becoming the Whistleblower: How a 23-year-old employee took a stand against one of Silicon Valley’s most hyped startups.

2. Inside Theranos: The reality behind the lab walls — failed technology, secrecy, and an intense, tightly controlled culture.

3. Working with Leadership: What it was really like working with Elizabeth Holmes and Sunny Balwani.

4. The Turning Point: How a pivotal conversation with Tyler’s grandfather, former U.S. Secretary of State George Shultz, and an interaction with a Wall Street Journal reporter ultimately brought the truth to light.

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Episode Chapters

(0:00) Intro

(10:20) Joining Theranos

(17:40) Inside Theranos

(25:40) Going Downhill

(37:49) Sunny Balwani

(42:20) Leaving Theranos

(46:00) The WSJ Reporter

(50:00) George & Tyler’s Chat

(1:06:00) The WSJ Exposes Theranos

(1:09:00) Final Moments With George Shultz

(1:11:50) Closing The Theranos Chapter

(1:15:08) Healthcare Trends

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